Cable Fly High to Low
⚡ Quick Reference
Primary Muscles: Lower chest (sternal pectoralis major), middle chest Secondary Muscles: Anterior deltoids, serratus anterior, triceps (stabilizers) Equipment: Cable machine with dual high pulleys Level: Beginner to Advanced Force Type: Push (horizontal adduction) Mechanics: Isolation
Key Benefits:
- Targets lower chest fibers for complete pectoral development
- Constant tension throughout the entire range of motion
- Reduced shoulder stress compared to dumbbell variations
- Excellent for developing the lower chest "line"
- Adjustable resistance curve suits all fitness levels
When to Use:
- As a finishing exercise after compound pressing movements
- For targeted lower chest development
- During hypertrophy-focused training blocks
- For muscle activation and mind-muscle connection work
- In rehabilitation settings with controlled loading
Movement Summary
🎯 Setup
Equipment Configuration
Cable Height Adjustment:
- Set both cable pulleys to the highest position on the cable tower
- Pulleys should be positioned at or slightly above shoulder height when standing
- Ensure both sides are set to equal heights (use the pin markers)
- Most machines have numbered positions - record your setting for consistency
Handle Attachment:
- Attach single-grip handles (D-handles) to each cable
- Ensure carabiner clips are fully closed and secure
- Alternative attachments: rope handles, stirrup handles, or wrist cuffs for wrist issues
- Test attachments with light weight before your working sets
Weight Selection:
- Start with 20-30% less weight than you'd use for chest press
- Both sides should have equal weight (most machines link the stacks)
- The weight should allow 12-15 controlled repetitions for your first set
- Remember: this is an isolation exercise, not a strength demonstration
Positioning Marks:
- Stand centered between the two cable towers
- Mark your foot position with tape if training regularly on the same machine
- Your starting position should create a slight stretch in the chest
- Cables should form approximately 45-degree angles from your shoulders
Body Positioning
Stance:
- Stand with feet shoulder-width apart or in a staggered stance
- Staggered stance option: one foot forward (12-18 inches) for stability
- Front knee should be slightly bent if using staggered stance
- Weight distributed evenly or 60% on front foot if staggered
- Core engaged with neutral spine positioning
Upper Body:
- Chest up and shoulders back (retracted scapulae at start)
- Slight forward lean from the hips (10-15 degrees)
- Head neutral, eyes looking forward
- Ribcage down (avoid flaring ribs)
- Maintain natural lordotic curve in lower back
Arm Position:
- Grasp handles with palms facing forward and down
- Start with arms extended slightly behind shoulder line
- Elbows bent 10-20 degrees (soft elbows, never locked)
- Wrists neutral, not flexed or extended
- Shoulders should feel a comfortable stretch but no pain
Breathing Setup:
- Take a deep breath before beginning the movement
- Brace core as if preparing for a light punch
- Maintain this tension throughout the set
🔄 Execution
The Movement
- 🔝 Starting Position
- ⬇️ Downward Press
- ⏸️ Bottom Position
- ⬆️ Returning
What's happening: Arms extended high and wide, ready to bring down
- Arms locked out at starting position with handles high
- Body straight with slight forward lean
- Core and glutes engaged
- Cables have visible tension pulling upward
Feel: Chest stretched, ready to contract lower fibers
What's happening: Bringing handles down and together
- Begin by thinking "hug a barrel" - arc the arms forward and down
- Lead with the elbows, not the hands
- Maintain the slight elbow bend throughout (fixed angle)
- Keep shoulders depressed (down), avoid shrugging
- Hands travel from high-and-wide to low-and-together
Tempo: 1-2 seconds
Feel: Lower chest contracting, pulling handles down and in
What's happening: Handles together at lower chest, peak contraction
- Bring handles together in front of lower chest/upper abdomen
- Hands should meet or slightly cross
- Squeeze chest muscles forcefully (1-2 second hold)
- Maintain slight elbow bend (never lock out)
- Keep shoulders down and back, chest up
Common error here: Rushing through without squeezing - hold the contraction.
What's happening: Controlled return to starting position
- Resist the weight as you return to starting position
- Move slowly and deliberately (2-3 second negative)
- Maintain the elbow angle - no straightening or bending
- Keep shoulders down and core engaged
- Return arms to slightly behind shoulder line
Tempo: 2-3 seconds
Feel: Chest stretching under control, maintaining tension throughout
Range of Motion Notes:
- Stop before shoulder discomfort or excessive stress
- The stretch should be felt in the muscle belly, not the shoulder joint
- Never bounce out of the bottom position
Tempo and Rhythm
Standard Tempo (3-1-1-0):
- 3 seconds: Eccentric (lowering/opening arms)
- 1 second: Pause at stretch position
- 1 second: Concentric (bringing handles together)
- 0 seconds: Pause at contraction (or 1-2 seconds for enhanced peak contraction)
Hypertrophy Tempo (4-1-2-2):
- 4 seconds: Slow eccentric for muscle damage
- 1 second: Pause at stretch
- 2 seconds: Controlled concentric
- 2 seconds: Peak contraction hold
Strength-Endurance Tempo (2-0-1-1):
- 2 seconds: Moderate eccentric
- 0 seconds: No pause at stretch
- 1 second: Explosive concentric
- 1 second: Brief contraction
Breathing Pattern
Standard Pattern:
- Inhale during the eccentric (opening) phase
- Hold briefly at the stretch position
- Exhale during the concentric (closing) phase
- Brief breath at the contraction point
- Never hold breath for multiple reps (avoid Valsalva)
Alternative for Heavy Sets:
- Short inhale at top
- Brace and hold during concentric
- Exhale at peak contraction
- Inhale fully during eccentric
💪 Muscles Worked
Primary Movers
Pectoralis Major (Sternal/Lower Head):
- Activation Level: Very High (85-95% of maximum)
- Function: Primary driver of horizontal adduction and downward pressing
- Emphasis: The high-to-low angle specifically targets the lower costal fibers
- Visual Development: Creates the defined lower chest "shelf" and separation
- Range Impact: Maximum activation occurs in the contracted position
Pectoralis Major (Clavicular Head):
- Activation Level: Moderate (40-60% of maximum)
- Function: Assists with horizontal adduction
- Note: Less emphasized than in low-to-high variations
- Contribution: Provides stability and contributes to overall chest mass
Secondary Movers
Anterior Deltoid:
- Activation Level: Moderate (50-70% of maximum)
- Function: Assists with shoulder flexion and horizontal adduction
- Training Note: Minimize involvement by focusing on chest activation
- Fatigue Factor: Can become limiting factor if pre-exhausted
Serratus Anterior:
- Activation Level: Low to Moderate (30-50%)
- Function: Protracts scapula during the closing phase
- Importance: Essential for complete range of motion
- Development: Contributes to overall thoracic aesthetics
Stabilizers
Triceps Brachii:
- Function: Maintains consistent elbow angle throughout movement
- Note: Should remain isometrically contracted
- Fatigue: Minimal if proper form maintained
Core Musculature:
- Rectus Abdominis: Maintains postural stability
- Obliques: Prevent rotation during unilateral forces
- Transverse Abdominis: Provides intra-abdominal pressure
- Erector Spinae: Maintains spinal position during forward lean
Rotator Cuff:
- Supraspinatus, Infraspinatus, Teres Minor, Subscapularis
- Function: Stabilizes humeral head in glenoid fossa
- Importance: Critical for shoulder health during the stretch phase
- Training Note: Adequate rotator cuff strength is prerequisite for heavy loading
Muscle Activation by Position
Starting Position (Stretch):
- High eccentric load on pectoralis major
- Moderate tension in anterior deltoid
- Rotator cuff highly active for stability
Mid-Range:
- Transition from eccentric to concentric pectoral activation
- Balanced load distribution across chest fibers
- Core stabilizers most active
Contracted Position:
- Peak pectoralis major activation (especially lower fibers)
- Anterior deltoid contribution increases
- Serratus anterior maximally engaged
⚠️ Common Mistakes
Technical Errors
1. Bending Elbows During Movement
- The Problem: Allowing elbows to flex and extend transforms the fly into a pressing movement
- Why It Happens: Weight is too heavy, or triceps are trying to assist
- The Fix: Reduce weight by 20-30%, focus on maintaining fixed elbow angle
- Coaching Cue: "Imagine your arms are in casts from elbow to hand"
2. Shrugging Shoulders Upward
- The Problem: Elevating shoulder girdle during the concentric phase
- Why It Happens: Upper trap dominance, fatigue, or compensation for weak chest
- The Fix: Actively depress shoulders before each rep, reduce weight
- Coaching Cue: "Keep shoulders down and away from ears"
3. Using Momentum and Body English
- The Problem: Swinging torso, jerking weight, or using leg drive
- Why It Happens: Ego lifting with excessive weight
- The Fix: Reduce weight by 40%, focus on smooth controlled tempo
- Coaching Cue: "Move like you're performing in slow motion"
4. Excessive Stretch at Bottom
- The Problem: Allowing arms to travel too far behind the body
- Why It Happens: Chasing a "bigger stretch" or poor body awareness
- The Fix: Set a visual marker for arm position, stop at mild stretch
- Coaching Cue: "Stretch the muscle, not the joint"
- Risk: Anterior shoulder capsule strain, biceps tendon stress
5. Incomplete Range of Motion at Top
- The Problem: Not bringing handles together fully at contraction
- Why It Happens: Weight too heavy or rushing through reps
- The Fix: Reduce weight, focus on peak contraction
- Coaching Cue: "Make your hands kiss at the bottom"
6. Inconsistent Arm Path
- The Problem: Handles traveling in different arcs from rep to rep
- Why It Happens: Lack of mind-muscle connection or fatigue
- The Fix: Video your set, use mirrors, reduce weight for control
- Coaching Cue: "Trace the same path every rep like train tracks"
7. Locked or Hyperextended Elbows
- The Problem: Fully straightening arms during the movement
- Why It Happens: Misunderstanding of exercise mechanics
- The Fix: Maintain 10-20 degree elbow bend throughout entire set
- Risk: Elbow joint stress, biceps tendon strain
8. Wrong Cable Angle
- The Problem: Standing too close or too far from the cable column
- Why It Happens: Poor setup or drifting during set
- The Fix: Mark foot position, check alignment before each set
- Optimal Position: Cables should create 45-degree angle from high pulleys
Programming Errors
9. Using as Primary Chest Exercise
- The Problem: Performing cable flies before compound pressing
- Why It Happens: Lack of programming knowledge
- The Fix: Always perform after bench press, dips, or push-ups
- Reasoning: Isolation exercises should follow compound movements
10. Training to Failure Every Set
- The Problem: Grinding out reps with compromised form
- Why It Happens: Misunderstanding of effective training stimulus
- The Fix: Leave 1-2 reps in reserve (RIR) on most sets
- Reasoning: Form breakdown increases injury risk and reduces target muscle activation
11. Excessive Volume
- The Problem: Performing too many sets or weekly sessions
- Why It Happens: "More is better" mentality
- The Fix: 3-6 sets per session, 2-3 sessions per week maximum
- Reasoning: Isolation work requires less volume than compounds
🔀 Variations
Angle Variations
1. High to Mid (45-Degree Angle)
- Setup: Lower cable pulleys one or two positions
- Target: More balanced upper and lower chest activation
- Best For: Those wanting overall chest development
- Difficulty: Beginner-friendly
2. Extreme High to Low (Steep Angle)
- Setup: Pulleys at maximum height, bring hands to waist level
- Target: Maximum lower chest emphasis
- Best For: Advanced lifters with lagging lower chest
- Difficulty: Intermediate to Advanced
3. Decline Angle (With Bench)
- Setup: Set adjustable bench to 15-30 degree decline between cables
- Target: Enhanced lower chest stretch and contraction
- Best For: Advanced lifters seeking maximum muscle damage
- Difficulty: Advanced
Stance Variations
4. Kneeling Cable Fly High to Low
- Setup: Kneel on one or both knees between cable towers
- Benefits: Removes leg drive, increases core demand, better for those with lower back issues
- Target: Same chest emphasis with increased stability requirement
- Best For: Those with balance issues or lower body injuries
- Difficulty: Beginner to Intermediate
5. Staggered Stance with Alternating Lead Leg
- Setup: Alternate which foot is forward between sets
- Benefits: Addresses asymmetries, increases core anti-rotation demand
- Best For: Functional training, athletic development
- Difficulty: Intermediate
6. Split Stance with Forward Lean
- Setup: Exaggerated forward foot position with deeper torso lean (20-30 degrees)
- Benefits: Increased stretch on chest, different strength curve
- Best For: Advanced lifters seeking variety
- Difficulty: Advanced
Execution Variations
7. Single-Arm Cable Fly High to Low
- Setup: Perform one arm at a time
- Benefits: Addresses strength imbalances, increased core anti-rotation work
- Target: Same chest emphasis plus oblique stabilization
- Programming: 8-12 reps per arm
- Difficulty: Intermediate
8. Pause Reps
- Setup: 2-5 second pause at peak contraction
- Benefits: Enhanced mind-muscle connection, increased time under tension
- Best For: Hypertrophy blocks or plateaus
- Programming: Reduce weight by 15-20%
- Difficulty: Intermediate
9. 1.5 Reps
- Setup: Full rep + half rep from stretch position
- Benefits: Extended time under tension, increased muscle damage
- Best For: Advanced hypertrophy training
- Programming: Counts as 1 rep, perform 8-10 total
- Difficulty: Advanced
10. Tempo Contrast
- Setup: Vary tempo within the same set (ex: 5 slow reps + 5 faster reps)
- Benefits: Recruits different motor units, metabolic stress
- Best For: Plateau breaking
- Difficulty: Advanced
Resistance Variations
11. Constant Tension (No Lock/No Rest)
- Setup: Don't bring handles fully together or return to full stretch
- Benefits: Continuous muscular tension, metabolic stress
- Best For: Hypertrophy and endurance
- Programming: 15-20 reps
- Difficulty: Intermediate
12. Drop Sets
- Setup: Perform to failure, reduce weight 20-30%, continue immediately
- Benefits: Maximum metabolic stress and muscle fiber recruitment
- Best For: Hypertrophy phases, advanced lifters
- Programming: 2-3 drops maximum
- Difficulty: Advanced
13. Resistance Band Addition
- Setup: Attach resistance bands to handles for variable resistance
- Benefits: Increased peak contraction difficulty
- Best For: Strength-focused training
- Difficulty: Advanced
Range of Motion Variations
14. Partial Reps (Bottom Half)
- Setup: Work only from mid-range to full contraction
- Benefits: Overload the peak contraction, useful for lagging lower chest
- Best For: Accessory work or plateau breaking
- Difficulty: Intermediate
15. Partial Reps (Top Half)
- Setup: Emphasize the stretch portion only
- Benefits: Eccentric overload, increased muscle damage
- Best For: Hypertrophy specialization
- Difficulty: Advanced
📊 Programming
Set and Rep Schemes
Hypertrophy Focus (Muscle Growth):
- Sets: 3-4 working sets
- Reps: 10-15 reps
- Rest: 60-90 seconds
- Load: 60-75% of 1RM equivalent
- Tempo: 3-1-2-1 (controlled eccentric, explosive concentric)
- Frequency: 2x per week
- Volume Landmarks: 6-12 sets per week
Strength-Endurance:
- Sets: 3-5 sets
- Reps: 12-20 reps
- Rest: 45-60 seconds
- Load: 50-65% of 1RM equivalent
- Tempo: 2-0-1-1
- Frequency: 2-3x per week
- Volume Landmarks: 9-15 sets per week
Metabolic/Pump Work:
- Sets: 2-3 sets
- Reps: 20-30 reps
- Rest: 30-45 seconds
- Load: 40-55% of 1RM equivalent
- Tempo: 1-0-1-0 (continuous tension)
- Frequency: 1-2x per week
- Volume Landmarks: 4-6 sets per week
Mind-Muscle Connection:
- Sets: 2-3 sets
- Reps: 8-12 reps
- Rest: 90-120 seconds
- Load: 50-60% of 1RM equivalent
- Tempo: 5-2-2-3 (very slow, maximal focus)
- Frequency: 1-2x per week
- Volume Landmarks: 4-6 sets per week
Weekly Programming Examples
Example 1: Upper/Lower Split
- Day 1 (Upper - Heavy): Bench Press, Barbell Row, then Cable Fly High to Low 3x12
- Day 2 (Lower): Squats, Romanian Deadlifts, accessories
- Day 3 (Rest)
- Day 4 (Upper - Volume): Incline Dumbbell Press, Lat Pulldown, Cable Fly High to Low 4x15
- Day 5 (Lower): Deadlifts, Leg Press, accessories
Example 2: Push/Pull/Legs
- Push Day: Bench Press 4x6, Overhead Press 3x8, Cable Fly High to Low 3x12-15, Tricep Work
- Pull Day: Deadlift, Rows, Pulldowns, Bicep Work
- Leg Day: Squats, Leg Press, Leg Curls, Calf Work
- Repeat
Example 3: Chest Specialization
- Monday (Strength): Bench Press 5x5, Cable Fly High to Low 4x8-10 (heavier)
- Wednesday (Hypertrophy): Incline Dumbbell Press 4x10, Cable Fly High to Low 3x12-15, Cable Fly Low to High 3x12-15
- Friday (Pump/Recovery): Push-ups 3x20, Cable Fly High to Low 3x20-25 (lighter, constant tension)
Exercise Placement
Optimal Positioning:
- After all compound pressing movements (bench press, incline press, dips)
- Before or after other chest isolation exercises
- Typically in positions 3-5 of chest workout
- Can be performed as a pre-exhaust technique (advanced)
Sample Chest Workout Order:
- Barbell Bench Press (compound, primary)
- Incline Dumbbell Press (compound, secondary)
- Cable Fly High to Low (isolation, lower chest emphasis)
- Cable Fly Low to High OR Pec Deck (isolation, upper chest or overall)
- Dips (compound finisher) OR Push-ups (bodyweight finisher)
Progression Strategies
Linear Progression:
- Increase weight by 5-10 lbs when you can complete all sets at top of rep range
- Example: 3x12 at 30 lbs → achieve 3x15 at 30 lbs → increase to 35 lbs for 3x12
Double Progression:
- Increase reps first, then weight
- Example: Week 1: 3x10 at 30 lbs → Week 2: 3x11 at 30 lbs → Week 3: 3x12 at 30 lbs → Week 4: 3x10 at 35 lbs
Volume Progression:
- Add sets before adding weight
- Example: Week 1-2: 2x12 → Week 3-4: 3x12 → Week 5-6: 4x12 → Week 7: 3x12 at higher weight
Density Progression:
- Decrease rest periods while maintaining weight and reps
- Example: 3x12 with 90 sec rest → 3x12 with 75 sec rest → 3x12 with 60 sec rest
Tempo Progression:
- Slow down eccentrics or add pauses
- Example: 3x12 at 3-0-1-0 → 3x12 at 4-1-1-1 → 3x12 at 5-2-2-2
Deload Protocols
When to Deload:
- Every 4-6 weeks of progressive training
- When experiencing joint pain or excessive fatigue
- When performance decreases for 2+ consecutive sessions
Deload Options:
- Volume Deload: Reduce sets by 50% (3 sets → 1-2 sets), maintain weight and reps
- Intensity Deload: Reduce weight by 30-40%, maintain sets and reps
- Frequency Deload: Perform exercise once instead of twice per week
- Complete Rest: Skip the exercise entirely for one week
Periodization Examples
Block Periodization (12 Weeks):
- Weeks 1-4 (Accumulation): 4x15 at 60% intensity, 60 sec rest
- Weeks 5-8 (Intensification): 3x10-12 at 70% intensity, 75 sec rest
- Weeks 9-11 (Realization): 3x8-10 at 75% intensity, 90 sec rest
- Week 12 (Deload): 2x12 at 60% intensity, 90 sec rest
Daily Undulating Periodization:
- Monday: 4x8-10 (heavier, strength focus)
- Thursday: 3x15-20 (lighter, endurance focus)
Weekly Undulating Periodization:
- Week 1: 3x15 at 60%
- Week 2: 3x10 at 70%
- Week 3: 3x8 at 75%
- Week 4: 3x12 at 65% (deload)
- Repeat cycle with 5% more weight
🔄 Alternatives & Progressions
Direct Alternatives (Same Movement Pattern)
1. Dumbbell Fly on Decline Bench
- Similarity: 95% - same movement pattern, same muscle emphasis
- Difference: Free weight requires more stabilization, different resistance curve
- When to Use: Cable machine unavailable, wanting variation
- Pros: Greater stabilizer activation, portable equipment
- Cons: Loses tension at top, higher skill requirement
2. Resistance Band Fly High to Low
- Similarity: 85% - same pattern with variable resistance
- Difference: Increasing resistance curve (harder at contraction)
- When to Use: Home workouts, travel, warm-ups
- Pros: Portable, joint-friendly, affordable
- Cons: Difficult to quantify progression, less total load
3. Pec Deck Machine (Declined Torso)
- Similarity: 75% - horizontal adduction with different stability demand
- Difference: Fixed path, seated position
- When to Use: Beginners, those with balance issues
- Pros: Easy to learn, very stable, easy to load
- Cons: Fixed path may not suit all body types
Regressions (Easier Variations)
4. Cable Fly High to Low with Lighter Weight
- When to Use: Learning the movement, deload weeks, fatigue management
- Approach: Reduce weight by 40-50%, focus on perfect technique
- Sets/Reps: 2-3 sets of 12-15 reps
5. Single-Arm Cable Fly (Assisted)
- When to Use: Correcting imbalances, learning motor pattern
- Approach: Use non-working hand to lightly assist if needed
- Progression: Gradually reduce assistance over weeks
6. Seated Cable Fly High to Low
- When to Use: Lower back issues, balance limitations
- Approach: Sit on bench between cables, same arm path
- Benefits: Removes lower body and balance requirements
Progressions (More Difficult Variations)
7. Cable Fly High to Low with Resistance Bands
- Added Difficulty: Bands add peak contraction resistance
- Setup: Attach bands to handles
- When to Use: Advanced lifters, overload the contraction
- Loading: Reduce cable weight by 20%, add moderate band tension
8. Offset-Load Cable Fly
- Added Difficulty: Different weights on each side
- Setup: 10-20% more weight on weaker side
- When to Use: Advanced imbalance correction
- Benefits: Increased core stability demand
9. Cable Fly High to Low to Press
- Added Difficulty: Add pressing component at bottom
- Setup: Perform fly, then press hands forward at bottom
- When to Use: Compound the movement for advanced fatigue
- Sets/Reps: 8-12 reps, reduce weight by 25%
10. Explosive Cable Fly High to Low
- Added Difficulty: Fast concentric, controlled eccentric
- Setup: Same as standard, but explode during the close
- When to Use: Power development, athletic training
- Caution: Only for those with excellent form and shoulder health
Complementary Exercises
11. Cable Fly Low to High
- Relationship: Opposite angle targets upper chest
- Programming: Superset or perform in same session
- Benefits: Complete chest development from all angles
12. Incline Dumbbell Press
- Relationship: Compound movement for upper chest
- Programming: Perform before cable flies
- Benefits: Builds strength for entire chest region
13. Dips (Chest Emphasis)
- Relationship: Compound movement emphasizing lower chest
- Programming: Perform before or instead of cable flies
- Benefits: Greater overload potential, functional strength
14. Push-Ups on Rings or TRX
- Relationship: Bodyweight variation with similar instability
- Programming: Alternative on home training days
- Benefits: Travel-friendly, functional core integration
Substitution Decision Matrix
Choose Cable Fly High to Low when:
- You want constant tension throughout ROM
- You need adjustable resistance for your level
- You're focusing on lower chest development
- You want reduced shoulder stress
- You need a controlled, safe exercise for higher reps
Choose Dumbbell Decline Fly when:
- You want maximum stretch emphasis
- You need greater stabilizer activation
- Cable machine is unavailable
- You're training in a home gym
Choose Dips when:
- You want maximum loading potential
- You need a compound movement
- You're focusing on strength over isolation
- Time is limited (more efficient)
Choose Pec Deck when:
- You're a beginner learning chest training
- You have shoulder stability issues
- You want maximum safety with minimal learning curve
- You're training in a commercial gym with limited cables
🛡️ Safety & Contraindications
Absolute Contraindications
1. Acute Shoulder Injury
- Recent rotator cuff tear
- Acute shoulder dislocation (within 6 months)
- Active shoulder impingement with pain
- Post-surgical shoulder (without physician clearance)
- Action: Avoid completely until cleared by medical professional
2. Severe Pectoralis Muscle Strain
- Grade 2-3 pec tear
- Acute pectoral tendon injury
- Action: Avoid all chest exercises until healed (typically 6-12 weeks)
3. Unstable Cardiac Conditions
- Recent heart attack or cardiac event
- Uncontrolled high blood pressure
- Severe heart valve issues
- Action: Requires physician clearance before resistance training
Relative Contraindications (Proceed with Caution)
4. History of Shoulder Instability
- Previous dislocations or subluxations
- Hypermobility syndrome
- Modification: Reduce range of motion in stretch position, use lighter weights
- Action: Build rotator cuff strength first, progress gradually
5. AC Joint Issues
- AC joint separation or arthritis
- Modification: Reduce weight, avoid deep stretch, try neutral grip handles
- Pain Response: Stop if pain in top of shoulder occurs
6. Biceps Tendinopathy
- Inflammation of long head of biceps tendon
- Modification: Reduce stretch position, use slower tempo
- Alternative: Try low-to-high variation which reduces biceps stress
7. Thoracic Outlet Syndrome
- Numbness, tingling in arms during overhead positions
- Modification: Lower cable height, reduce stretch position
- Action: Consult with physical therapist for personalized modifications
Injury Prevention Guidelines
Proper Warm-Up Protocol:
- 5-10 minutes general cardio to increase core temperature
- Dynamic shoulder mobility (arm circles, band pull-aparts)
- Rotator cuff activation (band external rotations: 2x15)
- 1-2 warm-up sets of cable flies at 30-40% working weight
- Gradually increase weight across warm-up sets
Form Safety Checkpoints:
- Never allow shoulders to shrug upward
- Keep elbows at consistent angle (no bending or straightening)
- Stop stretch position before pain or excessive tension
- Maintain stable, neutral spine throughout
- Move deliberately; never use momentum or jerking
- Keep wrists neutral (not flexed or extended)
Load Management:
- Start with conservative weights (you can always increase)
- Never sacrifice form for heavier weight
- Increase weight by no more than 5-10 lbs at a time
- If form breaks down, weight is too heavy
Recovery Considerations:
- Allow 48-72 hours between chest training sessions
- Monitor for persistent shoulder or chest pain
- Ice if inflammation occurs post-workout
- Include rotator cuff strengthening in program
Warning Signs to Stop Immediately
Stop Exercise If You Experience:
- Sharp pain in shoulder joint (vs. muscle burn)
- Clicking or popping in shoulder with pain
- Numbness or tingling down arms
- Dizziness or lightheadedness
- Chest pain different from muscle fatigue
- Loss of strength suddenly during set
- Visual disturbances or severe headache
Post-Workout Warning Signs:
- Pain that persists beyond 48 hours
- Swelling in shoulder or chest area
- Reduced range of motion in shoulder
- Pain during daily activities
- Night pain that disrupts sleep
Action for Warning Signs:
- Stop training immediately
- Apply ice to affected area
- Consult healthcare provider if symptoms persist
- Do not resume exercise until pain-free
Special Population Considerations
Older Adults (65+):
- Start with very light weight (just the handles)
- Emphasize control over load
- Reduce range of motion if mobility is limited
- Monitor blood pressure response
- May need longer rest periods (90-120 seconds)
Pregnancy:
- Consult OB-GYN before continuing exercise
- May become uncomfortable in third trimester
- Reduce weight and volume as pregnancy progresses
- Alternative: Seated or incline variations may be more comfortable
- Stop if any abdominal discomfort occurs
Post-Rehabilitation:
- Obtain clearance from physical therapist or physician
- Start with 40-50% of pre-injury weights
- Progress very gradually (increase weight every 2-3 weeks)
- Monitor symptoms closely
- Consider working with trainer initially
Hypermobility Disorders:
- Reduce range of motion significantly
- Avoid deep stretch positions
- Focus on controlled eccentrics
- May need to increase frequency of rotator cuff work
- Consider stability variations (seated)
Equipment Safety
Machine Inspection:
- Check cables for fraying or damage before each use
- Ensure pulleys rotate smoothly
- Verify weight stack moves freely without sticking
- Confirm all adjustment pins are fully inserted
- Test that handles/attachments are secure
Environmental Safety:
- Ensure adequate space around cable machine
- Check for trip hazards in movement path
- Avoid training when overly fatigued
- Stay hydrated, especially in warm environments
- Use collars or clips on all attachments
🦴 Joints Involved
Primary Joints
Glenohumeral Joint (Shoulder)
- Type: Ball-and-socket synovial joint
- Movements:
- Horizontal adduction (primary movement during concentric phase)
- Horizontal abduction (primary movement during eccentric phase)
- Slight extension at start position
- Range Used: Approximately 60-90 degrees of horizontal adduction/abduction
- Stability: Inherently unstable joint; relies heavily on rotator cuff
- Loads: Moderate to high tensile forces through anterior capsule during stretch
- Injury Risks: Anterior shoulder impingement, capsular strain if excessive range used
Articulations Within Shoulder:
- Humeral head articulates with glenoid fossa of scapula
- Movement also involves scapulothoracic rhythm (scapula moving on ribcage)
- Acromioclavicular (AC) joint experiences compression forces
- Sternoclavicular joint provides base stability for entire shoulder girdle
Secondary Joints
Scapulothoracic "Joint"
- Type: Not a true joint; functional articulation of scapula on thorax
- Movements:
- Protraction during concentric (bringing handles together)
- Retraction during eccentric (opening arms)
- Should remain relatively stable throughout
- Stabilizers: Serratus anterior, rhomboids, middle/lower trapezius
- Importance: Proper scapular positioning protects glenohumeral joint
- Common Issue: Excessive protraction or winging indicates weakness
Elbow Joint
- Type: Hinge synovial joint
- Movement: Should remain in isometric contraction (no movement)
- Angle: Maintained at 10-20 degrees of flexion throughout
- Function: Static stabilizer during exercise
- Risk: Hyperextension if locked out; biceps tendon stress
Wrist Joint
- Type: Condyloid synovial joint
- Movement: Should remain neutral (no flexion or extension)
- Function: Transmits force from cable to arm
- Common Error: Excessive flexion or extension under load
- Risk: Wrist strain, reduced force transmission to chest
Spinal Involvement
Thoracic Spine
- Movement: Slight extension to maintain chest-up posture
- Importance: Proper positioning optimizes pectoral line of pull
- Common Issue: Excessive flexion (rounding) reduces exercise effectiveness
- Stabilizers: Erector spinae, deep spinal stabilizers
Lumbar Spine
- Movement: Should remain in neutral lordosis (natural curve)
- Risk: Hyperextension if excessive forward lean
- Stabilizers: Core musculature prevents anterior pelvic tilt
- Safety Note: Those with lower back issues may prefer seated variation
Cervical Spine
- Movement: Neutral position (head neither forward nor backward)
- Common Error: Forward head posture during contraction
- Fix: Keep eyes looking forward, not down at hands
Joint Loading Patterns
During Eccentric Phase (Opening Arms):
- Shoulder: Tensile loading on anterior capsule and pectoral muscles
- Magnitude: Moderate to high depending on weight and range
- Peak Stress Point: Maximum stretch position
- Safety: This is where most shoulder injuries occur if range excessive
During Concentric Phase (Closing Arms):
- Shoulder: Compressive forces at glenohumeral joint
- AC Joint: Compressive loading increases
- Peak Activation: Maximum muscle force at peak contraction
- Safety: Lower injury risk during this phase
At Peak Contraction:
- Shoulder: Moderate compression of humeral head into glenoid
- Scapula: Maximum protraction if full range achieved
- Spinal Loading: Increased if excessive forward lean
Joint Health Considerations
Optimizing Joint Longevity:
- Appropriate Range: Don't exceed comfortable stretch in shoulders
- Load Selection: Use weights that allow perfect form
- Tempo Control: Slow eccentrics reduce rapid tensile loading
- Warm-Up: Prepare joints with mobility work and light sets
- Recovery: Allow adequate rest between chest sessions
Pre-Existing Joint Conditions:
- Shoulder Arthritis: May need reduced range and lighter weights
- AC Joint Issues: Try neutral grip handles, reduce weight
- Rotator Cuff Pathology: Build cuff strength before loading flies
- Elbow Issues: Ensure soft elbow bend, never lock out
- Wrist Issues: Try wrist cuffs instead of handles
Joint Mobility Requirements:
- Shoulder Flexion: At least 150 degrees
- Shoulder Horizontal Adduction: At least 30 degrees
- Thoracic Extension: Adequate to maintain chest-up posture
- If Lacking Mobility: Perform mobility work before adding resistance
Red Flags for Joint Issues:
- Pain that's sharp vs. muscle burn
- Clicking or popping with pain
- Swelling around joints post-workout
- Reduced range of motion after training
- Pain during daily activities
- Action: Consult healthcare provider, reduce load or stop exercise
Biomechanical Optimization by Joint
Shoulder Joint Optimization:
- Position handles so arms are 30-45 degrees away from torso at stretch
- Avoid letting arms drift behind shoulder plane excessively
- Keep movement arc consistent with natural joint mechanics
- Imagine hugging a large barrel (natural shoulder arc)
Elbow Joint Optimization:
- Set elbow angle at start and maintain throughout
- Never actively flex or extend elbows during movement
- Think of arms as "long levers" with fixed hinges
- If elbows want to bend, weight is too heavy
Wrist Joint Optimization:
- Grip handles with neutral wrist (straight line from forearm)
- Don't squeeze excessively (causes wrist flexion)
- If wrists hurt, try different handle attachment or wrist cuffs
- Maintain neutral position throughout entire set
Spinal Joint Optimization:
- Brace core before each rep to protect lumbar spine
- Maintain natural curves (avoid excessive flexion or extension)
- If lower back arches, reduce forward lean or use seated variation
- Keep ribcage down to avoid hyperextension
❓ Common Questions
Exercise Selection & Effectiveness
Q: Is this better than flat cable flies or dumbbell flies? A: "Better" depends on your goals. Cable fly high to low specifically targets the lower chest fibers more effectively than flat variations. It provides constant tension throughout the range of motion (unlike dumbbells which lose tension at the top). If your goal is lower chest development, this angle is superior. For overall chest development, include multiple angles (high-to-low, mid-height, and low-to-high).
Q: Can I build a big chest with just cable flies? A: While cable flies are excellent, they're isolation exercises and shouldn't be your primary chest builder. Compound movements (bench press, incline press, dips) allow you to handle more total load and are superior for building overall mass. Cable flies are best used as accessory exercises after your main pressing work to maximize muscle fiber recruitment and create metabolic stress.
Q: How is this different from cable fly mid-height? A: The angle of pull changes which chest fibers are emphasized. High-to-low targets the lower (sternal) pectoralis major fibers more directly due to the downward angle matching the fiber orientation. Mid-height flies distribute tension more evenly across the entire chest. Think of it as providing different vectors of resistance for complete development.
Q: Should I feel this more in my chest or shoulders? A: You should feel this primarily in your chest, specifically the lower/outer pectoral region. If you're feeling it predominantly in your anterior deltoids (front shoulders), your form likely needs adjustment. Common fixes: ensure cables are set high enough, focus on pulling with your chest not your arms, reduce weight to improve mind-muscle connection, and avoid shrugging shoulders upward.
Form & Technique
Q: How far back should my arms go on the stretch? A: Your arms should go back until you feel a comfortable stretch in your chest muscles, typically slightly behind the line of your shoulders. However, this varies individually based on shoulder mobility and health. Stop before you feel stress in the shoulder joint itself (vs. muscle stretch). A good rule: if you can't control the weight at the stretch position, you've gone too far back.
Q: Should my hands touch at the bottom or cross over? A: Bringing your hands to touch in front of your lower chest/upper abdomen is sufficient for maximum contraction. Some advanced lifters cross their hands slightly for an extra squeeze, alternating which hand crosses on top. However, this is optional and the benefit is minimal. Focus on strong contraction when hands meet rather than forcing a crossover.
Q: My elbows keep bending during the movement. What's wrong? A: This is the most common technical error and usually indicates the weight is too heavy. Your elbows should maintain the same slight bend (10-20 degrees) throughout the entire movement. If they're bending and extending, you're transforming the fly into a pressing movement. Reduce weight by 30% and focus on keeping your arms in a "fixed arc" position. Imagine your arms are in casts.
Q: How much should I lean forward? A: A slight forward lean of 10-15 degrees is optimal for most people. This lean helps align your torso with the angle of pull and can increase the stretch on the chest. However, don't lean so far that you're using momentum or compromising your lower back. If you have lower back issues, stay more upright or use a seated variation.
Q: Should I retract my scapula like during bench press? A: At the starting position, yes - your shoulder blades should be retracted (pulled back and down). However, unlike bench press, it's acceptable for them to protract slightly (spread apart) at peak contraction as this is part of the natural horizontal adduction movement. The key is starting with good scapular position and not allowing excessive shrugging or protraction during the movement.
Programming & Progression
Q: Where should this go in my chest workout? A: Cable flies should come after your compound pressing movements (bench press, incline press, dips) when you're already fatigued. This is typically position 3-5 in your workout. Performing isolation exercises after compounds allows you to focus on mind-muscle connection and metabolic stress without worrying about needing maximum strength. Example order: 1) Barbell Bench Press, 2) Incline Dumbbell Press, 3) Cable Fly High to Low, 4) Cable Fly Low to High.
Q: How many sets and reps should I do? A: For hypertrophy (muscle growth), 3-4 sets of 10-15 reps is ideal. This rep range creates sufficient mechanical tension and metabolic stress for muscle growth. For endurance or pump work, you can go higher (15-20+ reps). For strength focus, stay lower (8-10 reps with more weight). Total weekly volume should be around 6-12 sets for this exercise across all your training sessions.
Q: How do I progress on this exercise? A: Several strategies work well:
- Linear: Add 5-10 lbs when you can complete all sets at the top of your rep range
- Double Progression: Increase reps first (10→12→15), then increase weight and drop back to 10 reps
- Tempo: Slow down the eccentric (3 seconds → 4 seconds → 5 seconds)
- Volume: Add one set per week until you reach 4-5 sets, then increase weight and drop back to 3 sets
Track your workouts to ensure you're progressing in some way every 2-3 weeks.
Q: How often can I train this exercise? A: 2-3 times per week is optimal for most people, depending on your split and recovery capacity. Allow at least 48 hours between chest sessions. If you're training chest twice per week, you can perform this exercise at both sessions. Three times per week is only appropriate for advanced lifters with excellent recovery or those in a specialization phase.
Q: Can I do this exercise every day? A: No. Daily training of the same muscle group prevents adequate recovery and will lead to overtraining, decreased performance, and potential injury. Muscle growth occurs during recovery, not during training. Even advanced lifters typically only train chest 2-3x per week maximum.
Weight & Difficulty
Q: What weight should I start with? A: Begin with a weight that allows you to perform 12-15 controlled reps with perfect form. This is typically quite light - many people start with 10-20 lbs per cable, even if they can bench press substantially more. Remember, this is an isolation exercise focused on muscle contraction, not an ego lift. You can always increase weight; starting too heavy ingrains bad habits.
Q: Why can I only use such light weight compared to bench press? A: This is completely normal. Cable flies are single-joint isolation exercises, while bench press is a multi-joint compound movement that involves chest, shoulders, and triceps. Additionally, flies use a disadvantageous leverage position (long lever arm). Someone who bench presses 185 lbs might only use 20-30 lbs per cable for flies. This doesn't mean the exercise is less effective - it just has different mechanical demands.
Q: I can't feel my chest working even with light weight. Why? A: This is a mind-muscle connection issue, very common with beginners. Try these solutions:
- Go even lighter - use just the cable handles with no weight plates
- Close your eyes and visualize your chest muscles contracting
- Have someone tap your lower chest during the movement
- Pre-exhaust with push-ups before your sets
- Perform extremely slow reps (5 seconds each direction)
- Try single-arm variations to focus on one side
With practice, the connection will develop.
Variations & Alternatives
Q: Can I do this with dumbbells instead? A: Yes, using a decline bench with dumbbells creates a similar movement pattern and targets similar muscles. However, dumbbells lose tension at the top of the movement (when arms are vertical), while cables maintain constant tension throughout. Dumbbells also require more stabilization. Both have merit - cables for constant tension and metabolic stress, dumbbells for increased stability demands.
Q: Is the standing or seated version better? A: Standing is generally superior for most people because:
- Allows more natural body positioning and forward lean
- Engages core stabilizers
- Permits micro-adjustments in posture
However, seated is better if you:
- Have lower back issues
- Struggle with balance
- Are learning the movement pattern
- Want to eliminate leg drive completely
Q: Should I superset this with another exercise? A: Supersets can be effective but depend on your goals:
- Antagonist superset: Pair with a back exercise (rows) for balanced development and time efficiency
- Pre-exhaust superset: Perform after push-ups to fatigue chest before isolation
- Post-exhaust superset: Perform before push-ups to further fatigue after isolation
- Same-muscle superset: Follow with cable fly low-to-high for complete chest work
Supersets reduce rest and increase metabolic stress but may compromise weight used and recovery.
Pain & Injury
Q: My shoulder clicks during this exercise. Is that bad? A: Clicking alone (without pain) is often harmless and can be due to tendons moving over bony structures. However, clicking WITH pain is a red flag indicating possible:
- Shoulder impingement
- Labral issues
- Rotator cuff problems
- AC joint dysfunction
If you have painful clicking:
- Reduce range of motion (don't stretch as far back)
- Lower the weight significantly
- Try different handle positions or grips
- If pain persists, consult a healthcare provider
- Consider alternatives like pec deck with limited range
Q: I feel pain in my front shoulder during the stretch. What should I do? A: This suggests you're either stretching too far back or have underlying shoulder issues. Immediately:
- Reduce your range of motion by 30-40%
- Lower the weight
- Ensure cables aren't set too high
- Check that you're not letting your shoulders drift forward
- Strengthen rotator cuff muscles before progressing
If pain continues even with modifications, this exercise may not be appropriate for you currently. Try pec deck or machine chest press instead, and consider physical therapy evaluation.
Q: Is it normal for my chest to be sore for days after this exercise? A: Delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS) lasting 24-48 hours is normal, especially when you're new to the exercise or increased volume/intensity. However:
- Soreness beyond 72 hours may indicate excessive volume
- Sharp pain (vs. muscle soreness) is not normal
- Soreness that prevents daily activities suggests you overdid it
- Reduce volume by 30-50% until your body adapts
Remember: soreness is not a requirement for muscle growth. Consistent progressive overload matters more than how sore you get.
Special Situations
Q: Can I do this exercise while pregnant? A: Only with physician clearance, and modifications may be necessary:
- Use very light weights
- Avoid lying flat variations after first trimester
- Seated or standing versions are safer
- Reduce range of motion as belly grows
- Stop if any abdominal discomfort occurs
- Alternative: incline cable flies may be more comfortable
Always consult your OB-GYN before continuing resistance training during pregnancy.
Q: I'm over 60. Is this exercise safe for me? A: Yes, cable flies can be excellent for older adults because:
- Low impact on joints
- Adjustable resistance for any strength level
- Helps maintain upper body strength and muscle mass
- Can improve shoulder health when done properly
However:
- Start with very light weights (just the handles)
- Have longer warm-ups
- Use slower tempos for control
- Monitor blood pressure response
- May need reduced range of motion
- Consider seated variation for better stability
Q: Can I do this exercise with one arm? A: Absolutely. Single-arm cable flies are an excellent variation that:
- Address strength imbalances between sides
- Increase core stabilization demands (anti-rotation)
- Allow you to focus on mind-muscle connection one side at a time
- Require less total weight (good for busy gyms)
Perform 8-12 reps per arm. You may find one side significantly weaker - this is normal. Let the weaker side determine your volume and don't create larger imbalances.
Q: What if my gym doesn't have a cable machine? A: Several alternatives work well:
- Resistance bands: Anchor high and perform same movement pattern
- Dumbbell decline flyes: Similar angle, different resistance curve
- Suspended trainer (TRX): Fly variations in standing position
- Decline push-ups: Not identical but hits lower chest
- Dips (chest lean): Compound alternative for lower chest
Each has pros and cons, but all can build the lower chest effectively.
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Exercise Classification:
- Category: Isolation, Horizontal Adduction
- Joint Action: Shoulder horizontal adduction with scapular protraction
- Primary Plane: Transverse (horizontal) plane with downward vector
- Complexity: Moderate (requires good body awareness and shoulder control)
Coaching Progression for Beginners:
- Session 1: Demonstrate exercise, let client perform with just handles (no weight), emphasize fixed elbow angle and controlled tempo
- Session 2: Add light weight (5-10 lbs per cable), focus on feeling lower chest activation, use verbal cues like "hug the barrel downward"
- Session 3-4: Refine form, teach proper breathing, begin progressive overload
- Session 5+: Introduce variations (tempo changes, pauses) once base pattern is mastered
Key Verbal Cues:
- "Imagine hugging a large barrel, bringing it down and together"
- "Lead with your elbows, not your hands"
- "Squeeze your lower chest like you're crushing a walnut"
- "Keep your shoulders down - away from your ears"
- "Arms are locked in position - only your shoulders move"
- "Feel the stretch in your chest, not your shoulders"
Red Flags for Form Breakdown:
- Elbows bending/extending during reps (weight too heavy)
- Shoulders elevating/shrugging (poor scapular control)
- Torso swaying or using momentum (weight too heavy or core weakness)
- Handles not meeting at bottom (incomplete ROM or inflexibility)
- Forward head posture at contraction (poor awareness)
- Weight stack slamming down (loss of eccentric control)
Individualization Factors:
- Long arms: May need to adjust cable height lower and reduce stretch ROM
- Shoulder mobility limitations: Reduce stretch position, consider seated variation
- Previous shoulder injury: Start very conservatively, may need to avoid entirely
- Weak rotator cuff: Address with dedicated cuff work before loading flies heavy
- Muscle imbalances: Single-arm variation to identify and address
- Limited equipment access: Can substitute with bands or decline dumbbell flies
Programming Within Different Goals:
Muscle Growth (Hypertrophy):
- Placement: Exercise 3-4 in chest workout after compounds
- Volume: 3-4 sets x 10-15 reps
- Load: Moderate (60-75% intensity)
- Rest: 60-90 seconds
- Frequency: 2x per week
- Technique emphasis: Mind-muscle connection, peak contraction squeeze
Strength:
- Generally not ideal for pure strength goals (use compound pressing instead)
- If included: 3 sets x 8-10 reps with longer rest (90-120 sec)
- Better as accessory for building muscle that supports pressing strength
Endurance/Conditioning:
- Placement: Later in workout or in circuits
- Volume: 2-3 sets x 15-25 reps
- Load: Light (40-60% intensity)
- Rest: 30-60 seconds
- Can be incorporated into supersets or circuits
Rehabilitation/Prehab:
- Very light loads focusing on controlled movement
- 2-3 sets x 12-15 reps
- Emphasize perfect form and ROM within pain-free range
- May need to limit stretch position significantly
Client Communication Tips:
- Emphasize this is NOT a "strength" exercise - ego check needed
- Explain constant tension advantage over dumbbells
- Show how lower chest development improves overall aesthetics
- Address common misconception that flies are "dangerous" (they're safe with proper form and loading)
- Demonstrate how small weight increases are normal and expected
- Use visual imagery (hugging barrel, spreading wings downward) for better motor learning
Troubleshooting Common Issues:
"I don't feel it in my chest"
- Reduce weight by 50%
- Close eyes and visualize chest contracting
- Try pre-exhaust with light push-ups
- Consider single-arm variation
- Place client's hand on their own chest to feel contraction
"My shoulders hurt"
- Check cable height (may be too high)
- Reduce stretch ROM immediately
- Assess shoulder mobility and previous injury history
- May need to avoid exercise and use alternatives
- Ensure shoulders aren't shrugging during movement
"The weight feels too light/easy"
- Verify they're using proper form (common to use momentum with "easy" weight)
- Implement tempo protocols (5-second eccentrics)
- Add pauses at stretch and contraction
- Remember: isolation exercises use less weight than compounds
"I feel it more in my arms/shoulders than chest"
- Reduce weight significantly
- Focus on "pulling with the chest" cue
- Check elbow angle (may be bending too much)
- Ensure cables are positioned correctly
- May need mind-muscle connection work
Progression Timeline (General):
- Weeks 1-2: Learn movement pattern, establish baseline weight
- Weeks 3-4: Progressive overload begins (reps or weight)
- Weeks 5-8: Continued progression, may introduce variations
- Weeks 9-12: Consider periodization change or deload
- Ongoing: Monitor for plateaus, adjust variables as needed
Sample Client Programs:
Beginner (3 months training experience):
- Cable Fly High to Low: 2-3 sets x 12-15 reps
- After: Flat Dumbbell Bench Press and Push-ups
- Focus: Learning pattern, building mind-muscle connection
- Progression: Reps first (12→15), then weight
Intermediate (1-2 years experience):
- Cable Fly High to Low: 3-4 sets x 10-12 reps
- After: Barbell Bench Press, Incline Dumbbell Press
- Pair with: Cable Fly Low to High in same session
- Focus: Progressive overload, tempo variations
- Progression: Double progression or volume progression
Advanced (3+ years experience):
- Cable Fly High to Low: 3-4 sets x 8-15 reps (varied weekly)
- Integration: Part of periodized chest specialization block
- Techniques: Drop sets, pauses, tempo contrasts
- Focus: Specific weak point development, advanced intensity techniques
- Progression: Structured periodization with planned deloads
Safety Reminders for Coaches:
- Always spot check cable equipment before client uses
- Watch first set closely for form breakdown
- Be ready to reduce weight if form deteriorates
- Monitor client's face for signs of shoulder pain (grimacing, compensation)
- Teach clients to stop 2-3 reps before failure to maintain form
- Consider pre-hab rotator cuff work for clients with shoulder history
Exercise Substitution Decision Tree:
- Shoulder pain despite modifications → Use pec deck or machine chest press
- No cable access → Resistance bands or decline dumbbell flies
- Balance issues → Seated cable fly variation
- Complete beginner → Master push-ups first, then add flies
- Lower back issues → Seated or supported variation
- Time constraints → May skip in favor of compound movements only
Last updated: December 2024